Meg Bowles Interview

meg.jpeg (13k) On her own Kumatone label, Meg Bowles has just released From the Dark Earth wherein her beautifully dark, spacey electronics are overlain by the not-as-incongruous-as-you-might-think sounds which flow from orchestral trumpeter David Bilger's horn. Thanks to Meg for providing her likeness, and for taking the time to chat with us about herself and her music.
AmbiEntrance: Tell us about your early childhood musical experiences.

Bowles: Let's see....both of my parents are classical music buffs, so I was pretty much surrounded by music from the time I was a newborn. Apparently I must have been a fussy little creature, for my mom used to play Mozart and stick me in front of the loudspeaker during those moments of sheer desperation when nothing else would calm me down. Well, it worked! She was ahead of her time and obviously stumbled onto the "Mozart Effect!"

My dad is a musicologist with a specialty in music of the Middle Ages and Rennaissance, so I got a heady dose of all of the wonderful sacred and secular music of that period as well. Anyway, both my brother and I began serious classical music study very early....I wound up a flutist and he a cellist. I was so caught up in it throughout my school years that I kind of missed out on a lot of rock and pop and all that stuff.

AmbiEntrance: How different do you think your musical aspirations would have been if you *had* been more exposed to rock and pop?

Bowles: Well, I feel that training is the more influential piece here...and if mine had included more exposure to rock and pop from a crafting perspective, my writing process might possibly be quite different....maybe more improvisatory and less orchestrally-oriented for starters.

AmbiEntrance: When were you first exposed to ambient/electronic music? What was the defining moment when you found yourself wanting to create these more abstract sounds?

Bowles: As I recall my first exposure was around eight or so, to the electronic music of Otto Luening....I can't remember the specific album, but the sounds he created entranced me and conjured up images of strange planets and all sorts of weird things. My brother and I would create haunted houses in the basement, invite our friends over, and play Otto Luening.....so that's how it all started.

As far as when I felt the urge to compose ambient/electronic music, that didnāt happen until much later. My husband bought himself a K1000 synth for his arranging work many years ago. I began playing around with it, and promptly appropriated it when I realized how much fun I was having...and the rest is history.

AmbiEntrance: How would you describe your first compositions on the K1000, and how has your style evolved since then?

Bowles: Actually, I mainly used the K1000 as a controller in the beginning days. Most of the patches on Inner Space, my first release, were Emu sounds, and I still use the Morpheus quite a bit. Describing my style is not something I feel particularly adept at, although in general it probably has become darker and more complex, both sonically and compositionally, and more refined. But those are generic words that can't really capture the nuances that the individual listener might pick up. You see, I find it really difficult to extract myself from the present moment of whatever I'm working on in order to look at where it has come from or where it is going.

AmbiEntrance: My first brush with your music was on the Hypnos comp, The Other World; what can you tell us about In the Arms of Morpheus (which I described, albeit briefly, as "a gorgeously expressive piece with various movements")?

Bowles: I'm not sure if you want me to address process or content here.....so I'll try to do a little of both. As you know, the Hypnos comp consists of a series of musical evocations of some of the subtle, shifting dimensional states we experience as we dream and move into a "non-ordinary" reality. An interesting parallel during the writing time of this piece was that I was experiencing some wicked insomnia....not fun. I'm never sure how (or whether) a concept actually manifests in my work...that is such a subjective thing. Concept is usually the last thing I become aware of. The beginning stages are purely feeling-oriented, almost palpably so. In the case of Adrift in the Arms of Morpheus all I could do was to trust that whatever piece that wanted to be born then would fit into the general theme.

AmbiEntrance: So, From the Dark Earth isn't your first synth-and trumpet recording? I just read on the  page about 1996's Night Sun Journey and 1997's Places Where Rivers Meet. How did this blend of sounds evolve?

Bowles: Night Sun Journey was the first piece I wrote for trumpet and synth (and one of the tracks on From the Dark Earth), which Dave Bilger commissioned from me for a recital he gave at the International Trumpet Guild Brassfest in June of 1996. We've known each other for many years, and Dave was familiar with my music. He basically just called me out of the blue, and after the few seconds of initial shock from contemplating a combination I would never have thought of myself in a million years, I said yes. Then came the challenging part....making it work! Needless to say, the fact that Dave is a brilliant musician with a magnificently lyrical style (plus being a lot of fun to work with) was also a factor.

AmbiEntrance: How was this (assumedly atypical) piece received when he performed at the International Trumpet Guild Brassfest? What's the opinion of your recorded collaborations from the world of "straight/traditional" brass listeners?

Bowles: The response was (and continues to be) great. In general, I get the sense that those you call "straight/traditional" brass players tend to be pretty hip to different musical styles...maybe that's been influenced by the jazz connection, I don't know. Anyway, they're pretty open to the space/ambient world as it is. I find that instrumentalists who have had NO exposure to synths, however, have a bit of difficulty with the sounds and the "darkness" in particular...which could be my writing as well.

I think classical trumpet players (and classical musicians in general) are always hungry for "atypical" additions to the recital repetoire which will really engage an audience, particularly given the dearth of "new classical music" that both musicians want to play and people want to listen to. I'm sure I'll get some flack for saying that, but all the feedback I get from my classical musician friends indicates that the new music situation out there is depressingly grim, with a few exceptions of course.

AmbiEntrance: Introduce us to your husband, Richard Price. Did his work with brass influence the marriage of trumpet with your synthesizers?

Bowles: Oh, absolutely...I might not have considered this project otherwise. Richard provided me with some essential technical pointers and moral support as well! He played French horn professionally for many years in the New York area (free lance classical, Broadway, and a founding member of the Borealis Wind Quintet) and has achieved quite a following as an arranger in brass circles. For the past seven years he has been a senior recording/mastering engineer and digital editor with Squires Productions.

AmbiEntrance: How would you describe your "working" relationship as you both produced and mixed From the Dark Earth?

Bowles: I often jokingly say that Richard subjects me to "ritual audio torture" during the mixing phase of a project! He has an extraordinary set of ears and a way of listening that forces me to listen on a number of new and different levels myself, at that stage of the process. His attention to detail is fearsomely precise, and as much as I may bitch and moan about some of the time-consuming, fine-tuning stuff that we do, I must say that the quality we come up with makes the whole experience worthwhile. We have a deep love and respect for each other.

Richard is my biggest fan and my strongest ally....which is a wonderful thing to have in a marriage that's lasted for fourteen years! The challenge in our working together is to make sure that our projects don't consume our marriage....sometimes we get dangerously close to that happening!

AmbiEntrance: Have you performed on any of your hsuband's recordings? Are there (or might there someday be) any Meg Bowles/Richard Price releases?

Bowles: My husband's recordings were done long before I began releasing my own work. He's no longer performing professionally, anyway...now he makes his living as a recording engineer/producer/digital editor. He does make occasional forays back into the arranging arena, something he's especially gifted at and known for. But arranging is a very different ballgame from composing. I really don't see us collaborating in that way.

AmbiEntrance: As principal trumpeter of the Philadelphia Orchestra, I'm assuming this is a bit of a crossover for David Bilger; Do you write his parts or does he improvise? Do you play together or record your parts individually?

Bowles: I wrote everything out for Dave, but was very clear with him about the parts where I wanted his playing to sound improvised. Basically, we recorded the synth and then played that back through the headphones as Dave played and was recorded himself. So in a sense we were playing together, but not contemporaneously and not with the kind of immediacy experienced in a live performance.

Nevertheless, there were subtle adjustments I would then make in the mix, once Dave was incorporated into it, so there was definitely a give and take for both of us.

AmbiEntrance: I'm really enjoying From the Dark Earth, but frankly, would prefer to hear more of your synth sounds than David Bilger's trumpet, as impressive as it is. Would you describe the sound of your previous solo releases (Blue Cosmos (1996), Inner Space (1993), and Solstice Dreams (1993))?

Bowles: Well, I can understand your preference....the fact that this is a trumpet and synth album, and that the trumpet is a pretty forward-sounding and direct instrument, may delight some with the tension that this combination creates and distract others.

Anyway, getting back to Blue Cosmos, that release is also an atmospheric and textural one, and fits well into the space music genre. Inner Space was my first release, and while it also falls into the space music category, it is more meditative in quality - a simpler album. Soltice Dreams is a seasonal new age-ish album and grew out of a tradition I had begun of composing and arranging Christmas tunes for friends and family.

AmbiEntrance: Why do you think there are so few women involved in ambient/electronic recordings? Is there a gender bias, conscious or unconscious?

Bowles: That's a really good question. I honestly don't know. The fact that the audience is predominantly male suggests that maybe women are not being reached by this sort of music. On the other hand, I've noticed that some outfits (distributors and retailers) that feature music for and by women are not interested in supporting ambient/electronic music, regardless of whether the composer is female or not.

So maybe there is an unconcious bias somewhere...at least a bias against music which can sound "dark." Just listen to the crappy soundtracks on the Lifetime Channel which bills itself as "television for women," and you get the idea that the media has decided that what women want is insipid, swoopy music with breathy vocals and 101 strings. I don't get it.

AmbiEntrance: If the Lifetime Channel commissioned you to do the music for their own promotional spots, what would you do with it?

Bowles: Okay, I'm going to try to suspend my disbelief here. All I can say is, if they didn't realize from the get go that they had the wrong person, they'd be in for a real surprise....

AmbiEntrance: How important do you feel your sex is to your artistry, or should that even be an issue?

Bowles: When I compose I'm not aware of identifying myself in any of my various roles as a woman or an artist or whatever. There's simply a process that takes over and demands that I open to it and serve it. For me, this creative process contains both masculine and feminine elements, regardless of whether the "channel" is male or female. I have a sense, though, that women may find it intuitively easier to tune into the cyclical nature of the creative process because of their own biology. At least, that's my guess.

AmbiEntrance: Do you get much feedback from female listeners? What are they saying about your sounds?

Bowles: You know, probably 99% of the feedback I get is from men. Certainly that's been the case so far for From the Dark Earth, and the response has been overwhelmingly positive. Most listeners seem to feel transported by the soundscapes into a different world, in a shamanic-like way. I feel very fortunate that through a bit of divine inspiration and surrendering to the process and a lot of very hard work I've been able to create a space for that to be experienced by another.

AmbiEntrance: Tell us about your future musical plans... solo and/or collaborations; what's next?

Bowles: There's nothing definite as yet.....probably another solo release for starters. But it all depends upon the Muses......

AmbiEntrance: Thanks for joining us at the AmbiEntrance; please keep us posted.

Bowles: Thanks for the questions!

This interview posted June 25, 1999 | Interview Index

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